Kocs Mihály - Siculus Invincius - Ουγγαρία

Hungary

www.siculusinvincius.hu

kocs@saniprevent.hu

 

Πρώτα από όλα θα σε ρωτήσω πως και από πότε άρχισες να ασχολείσαι με την εκτροφή;

  First of all I would like to ask you when and how you have started breeding Dobermanns.

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  I have been keeping this lovely breed since 34 years, I’ve started it when I was 18 years old. It was „love at the first sight” and it still is!
I breeded Dobermann in 3 etaps, at the first 2 when I was young my „financial background” wasnt’t optimal so the results were not OK for me! But now I have good possibilities so our results are extraordinary. Our black female O’Finity King of Darkness is 12 countries champion, 4 Club winner – Italy , Romania, France, Luxembourg- she was the Top Dog and Top Giovanne in same year in black Dobermann category in Italy 2010, our brown male Rellaps Forrest is 11 country’s champion, both of them had the best ZTP V 1A and IPO 1
     

Στο τομέα του χαρακτήρα - ταμπεραμέντου- τι νομίζεις? Υπάρχουν αλλαγές στο μοντέρνο Nτόμπερμαν;

 

From the point of temperament what do you think? Are there any changes in the character of the modern Dobermanns?

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Unfourtunetly yes, the earlier Dobermanns were excellent working dogs, but now a huge percent of the „modern Dobermann” are only very nice looking, but for work they have a poor performance!
During the ZTP i met several „great named” males with many matings behind their back, and they had catastrofic working performance, unfourtunetly they transmit this deficent character in many-many puppies!

     

Μορφολογία; Ή εργασία;

 

Shows or Work?

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Both of them are equally important, because the Dobermann have to be much more then an inactive beauty! Their wonderful design are only shown fully during movement, during the work. But it is very difficult to achieve this two things simultaneously, because the show condition of the Dobermann is with 4-6 kg higher then the optimal working condition. But I think i managed to demonstrate that it isn’t impossible, both of our dogs have IPO 1 ZTP , and they have extraordinary show results too (female 46x CAC, 15 x CACIB, 18 xBOB, male 25 xCAC , 6 x CACIB, 4x BOB)

     

Τι πιστεύεις για το επίπεδο εκτροφής παγκοσμίως και μετά στη χώρα σου;

 

What do you think of the level of breeding internationally and in your country?

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There are very good breeders in several countries, but unfourtunetly many of them breed they females with the same, small number of “famous (IDC winner) males”, they don’t pay enough attention to the genetical background of their dogs.
Unfourtunetly, at the moment the progenies of these „famous males” can be better sold, then a good combination of two not so famous dogs .
In my opinion, the biggest problem with the Dobermann breedig is, that a few number of special judges holding the bigest shows (IDC, Club Shows) in their hand.
Their don’t judge to meet the actual standard (the description of the optimal Dobermann) much more conforming their own taste or interest.
In each country, they have „amicable” breeders who are mating their females with the males chosen by these „specialist judges”. Usually they think that they know everything the best, but sadly, many times they don’t know sufficently the physiology, anatomy of the dogs for examle during the movement evaluation.
Believe me I know what I’m talking about, I’m a pet specialist veterinarian with 10 years university. They learn only 2-3 months to be judges and they think they are the GOD!
On this way the genetical background of the breed become step by step more closed, a lot of illnesses and many faults become more common.

     

Για θέματα υγείας τι πιστεύεις;

 

What do you think about health?

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I wrote an articleof this phenomenon those who are interested, can read it on our hompage:
„Dog Shows experience 2010.
„health dangers of the „new type of Dobermann”
http://www.siculusinvincius.hu/irasok/dogshowsexperience.html

     

Τι πιστεύεις για τη HD στη φυλή;

 

What about HD in the breed?

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The HD is only a slice of a much bigger problem : the consequence of the too fast growing(explosional growing). The Dobermann basicly is a very fast growing breed, majority of the complete dog foods, make this growing faster, on this way the skeletal system (bones , joints) of the dogs can’t develop well enough.
During the fast growing the bones became very soft, they can easily become distorted, on this way the joints lose their congruency (for example the hip became displatic), all body of the dog became very narrow, the legs are deviating from their axis (cow position, french position in front), the movement become like a ”marionett puppet”, disordinate, inhomogene.
To these young dogs all types of injuries are more likely to occure. They working capacity vastly decreases.
The appropriate growing management is, or even more, important than the genetical background (genotipe) to have the best looking, moving dog (best fenotip).
That is why my puppies price include a growing management pack (special food suppliment for the best bone, joint and cartilage development; shedulle for the best feeding, training the puppies during their 1 year age)

     

Ποιά τα πιο σπουδαία Nτόμπερμαν αρσενικά και θηλυκά που άφησαν το σημάδι τους στην εκτροφή της Ρουμανίας?

 

Which are the most important Dobermanns males and females - that left their sign in the breeding of your country?

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Graaf Guido from Frankenhorst, Baron Nike Renewal, CAYA Jared, Gino Gomez Del Citone, Urbano del Diamante Nero, Fedor Del Nasi, Zordan Zewi Del Citone, Ale Alamos Del Citone.
CAYA Alabama, Wallis Niki of Tandenberg

     

Αρσενικά και θηλυκά Nτόμπερμαν που προτιμάς σήμερα παγκοσμίως;

 

Male and female Dobermanns of today that you prefer worldwide?

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Females:
Ofcours first my female :O’Finity King of Darkness, then Raisa Raiven of Fiorsilva, Vivien of Zoosfery, Gloria Del Nasi, Zora Betelges, Bakira Lazodobi .

Males:
Mitto Del Nasi (I mated my female with him), Urbano Del Diamante Nero (my females grand father), Fedor del Nasi, Ron Del Fiorsilva (very good progenies for work, my males father) and offcourse my male Rellaps Forrest (move and working character)

     

Ευρωπαϊκό ή Αμερικάνικο;

 

European or US Dobermann?

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Much more European type

     

Το καλύτερο σημείο για το καθένα;

 

Which is the strongest point of each of them?

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  The european is more compact, strong and „looks more natural” it is closer to a working dog type. The US type is more elegant, their neck is better (in EU Dob. many males have too short and skinny neck).
     
Τι θα συμβούλευες τους νέους εκτροφείς;   What would you advice to a new breeder?

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During a mate you can correct only 1 maximum 2 faults, be very careful when choosing a male, don’t choose only about his owner or it’s name. Looking at his results (majority of these dogs achived they results at only 2-3 amicable judges!!)
The realy good Dobermanns achive their result from many different judges!!

     
Γραμμική αναπαραγωγή, ενδογαμία, ή εξωδιασταύρωση;   Line breeding inbreeding or outcross?

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  Both can be useful if you use it correctly
     
Τι συμβουλεύεις τους μελλοντικούς αγοραστές;   What would you advice to a future dobermann owner?

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When they choose a puppy don’t look only about the name of the breeder or of the parents.
Try to choose a well looking puppy, but much more important to try to do the best durig his growth.
First we have to built the skeletal (bones and joints- so the puppy have to be slim till 6-8 months) then the muscles (beetwin 8-12 months) with appropriate training.

     
Πια η γνώμη σου για την πιθανή απαγόρευση κοψίματος ουράς και αυτιών; Θα επηρεάσει παγκόσμια τη φυλή;   Your opinion concerning ear cropping and tail docking? Is it possible that a worldwide prohibition will affect the breed?

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The tail docking and ear cropping prohibition is one of the biggest stupidity of EU, with this decision they destroyed the breeding in many countries, the best example is Nederland, not so long ago they were the leader breeders, now nothing.
But unfourtunetly the number of European countries where you can exhibit a cropped dog decreases dramaticaly. So if you want to take your dog to many shows you will have to leave his tail and ears be.

 

 

 

     

 

     
 
     
 
     
 
     
 
     
 

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